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	<title>Comments on: Wichita School Bond Issue: What We Don&#8217;t Know</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Weeks</title>
		<link>http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/wichita-school-bond-issue-what-we-dont-know/comment-page-1/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Weeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Willmore, would you please take a look at this page at the Kansas State Department of Education, and click on the page for USD 259:

http://www.ksde.org/Default.aspx?tabid=1810

Then, could you explain to me and the other readers where we can see the funding cuts you speak of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Willmore, would you please take a look at this page at the Kansas State Department of Education, and click on the page for USD 259:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ksde.org/Default.aspx?tabid=1810" rel="nofollow">http://www.ksde.org/Default.aspx?tabid=1810</a></p>
<p>Then, could you explain to me and the other readers where we can see the funding cuts you speak of?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Willmore</title>
		<link>http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/wichita-school-bond-issue-what-we-dont-know/comment-page-1/#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Willmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose to any one person who had that experience it may seem that way.  However I see the district website, and every board policy available to anyone worldwide, all the replays on cable tv, the entire year&#039;s budget published in the Wichita Eagle every year, and have to conclude that for most individuals this would be considered transparent government.  Especially when compared to state and federal governments.  Sorry if that goes against your natural suspicion, but I tend to give them a break.  After all, their earlier bond issue recently completed all of the projects it was passed to accomplish.  It did not in any way fall short of expectations.  In the meantime the district experienced 6 straight years of state funding cuts in a row until the state Supreme Court stepped in and forced the Legislature to fulfill their duty to fund schools.  We right now have striking Hawker Beechcraft workers, because their wage increases were not high enough.  And district AYP numbers under President Bush&#039;s &quot;No Child Left Behind&quot; act show improvement even in the face of rising costs and decreased funding.  Well, now they have their funding and can get teachers and support personnel back, as well as getting their teachers better wages so they won&#039;t transfer to the rural districts.  And I&#039;ve seen the budget, and seen where the new money is going.  I give them the clear win over the State Legislature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose to any one person who had that experience it may seem that way.  However I see the district website, and every board policy available to anyone worldwide, all the replays on cable tv, the entire year&#8217;s budget published in the Wichita Eagle every year, and have to conclude that for most individuals this would be considered transparent government.  Especially when compared to state and federal governments.  Sorry if that goes against your natural suspicion, but I tend to give them a break.  After all, their earlier bond issue recently completed all of the projects it was passed to accomplish.  It did not in any way fall short of expectations.  In the meantime the district experienced 6 straight years of state funding cuts in a row until the state Supreme Court stepped in and forced the Legislature to fulfill their duty to fund schools.  We right now have striking Hawker Beechcraft workers, because their wage increases were not high enough.  And district AYP numbers under President Bush&#8217;s &#8220;No Child Left Behind&#8221; act show improvement even in the face of rising costs and decreased funding.  Well, now they have their funding and can get teachers and support personnel back, as well as getting their teachers better wages so they won&#8217;t transfer to the rural districts.  And I&#8217;ve seen the budget, and seen where the new money is going.  I give them the clear win over the State Legislature.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Weeks</title>
		<link>http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/wichita-school-bond-issue-what-we-dont-know/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Weeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still, I ask this question of you: if someone asked the district for its definition of a “violent act” in the statistics it sends to the state board of education, and it took six weeks and several follow-ups to get an answer, would that be considered open and transparent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, I ask this question of you: if someone asked the district for its definition of a “violent act” in the statistics it sends to the state board of education, and it took six weeks and several follow-ups to get an answer, would that be considered open and transparent?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Willmore</title>
		<link>http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/wichita-school-bond-issue-what-we-dont-know/comment-page-1/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Willmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure do, sorry it took so long to get back to you, but was out of town over the weekend.  As far as the definition of &quot;violent act&quot; as far as its use in a few board policies, I do have to admit that it&#039;s kind of vague.  However you&#039;d have a much harder time getting an answer out of a judge about the meaning of the words &quot;reasonable&quot; or &quot;unreasonable.&quot;  In the realm of student behavior however I found board policy 1464 and policy 1462 gave fairly good descriptions of what is expected of each student in terms of behavior.  The above policies are available for public view at http://wichita.usd259.net/policies/.  As for a list of examples of how each has been interpreted over the years, it would be impossible to be specific.  Most everywhere in this country children are protected even more so than adults, and rightly so.  Disciplinary action against a minor will naturally be kept confident.  After all, police departments and court proceedings will not release the names of minors who are involved in proceedings in any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure do, sorry it took so long to get back to you, but was out of town over the weekend.  As far as the definition of &#8220;violent act&#8221; as far as its use in a few board policies, I do have to admit that it&#8217;s kind of vague.  However you&#8217;d have a much harder time getting an answer out of a judge about the meaning of the words &#8220;reasonable&#8221; or &#8220;unreasonable.&#8221;  In the realm of student behavior however I found board policy 1464 and policy 1462 gave fairly good descriptions of what is expected of each student in terms of behavior.  The above policies are available for public view at <a href="http://wichita.usd259.net/policies/" rel="nofollow">http://wichita.usd259.net/policies/</a>.  As for a list of examples of how each has been interpreted over the years, it would be impossible to be specific.  Most everywhere in this country children are protected even more so than adults, and rightly so.  Disciplinary action against a minor will naturally be kept confident.  After all, police departments and court proceedings will not release the names of minors who are involved in proceedings in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Weeks</title>
		<link>http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/wichita-school-bond-issue-what-we-dont-know/comment-page-1/#comment-464</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Weeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, the photography issue is trivial. Do you have any thoughts on the important example?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, the photography issue is trivial. Do you have any thoughts on the important example?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Willmore</title>
		<link>http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/wichita-school-bond-issue-what-we-dont-know/comment-page-1/#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Willmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you would like, I will take several pictures of the school administration building with my cameraphone.  One while standing on the sidewalk, one while right in front of the door, one from the lobby, and for the last, one of the front desk and recptionist.  I could e-mail those to you if you would like.  It might take a while, i&#039;m kind of swamped at work. But I can wedge this into my schedule, it would only take a few minutes.  After all, I have walked right into a school several times and the most I got from security was a polite &quot;Can I help you?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you would like, I will take several pictures of the school administration building with my cameraphone.  One while standing on the sidewalk, one while right in front of the door, one from the lobby, and for the last, one of the front desk and recptionist.  I could e-mail those to you if you would like.  It might take a while, i&#8217;m kind of swamped at work. But I can wedge this into my schedule, it would only take a few minutes.  After all, I have walked right into a school several times and the most I got from security was a polite &#8220;Can I help you?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Weeks</title>
		<link>http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/wichita-school-bond-issue-what-we-dont-know/comment-page-1/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Weeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would ask Mr. Willmore that if he asked the district for its definition of a &quot;violent act&quot; in the statistics it sends to the state board of education, and it took six weeks and several follow-ups to get an answer,  would that be considered open and transparent?

Or if one attempts to take a photograph of the school administration building while standing on a public sidewalk, and a security guard told you to stop, how would that be classified? Open or closed?

This is just one important and one trivial example of the difficulties citizens have dealing with this school district.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would ask Mr. Willmore that if he asked the district for its definition of a &#8220;violent act&#8221; in the statistics it sends to the state board of education, and it took six weeks and several follow-ups to get an answer,  would that be considered open and transparent?</p>
<p>Or if one attempts to take a photograph of the school administration building while standing on a public sidewalk, and a security guard told you to stop, how would that be classified? Open or closed?</p>
<p>This is just one important and one trivial example of the difficulties citizens have dealing with this school district.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Willmore</title>
		<link>http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/wichita-school-bond-issue-what-we-dont-know/comment-page-1/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Willmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As documented in articles appearing on this website, the Wichita public school district has problems with openness and transparency.&quot;

Having seen both the articles mentioned in the statement, and having been to several school board meetings, I honestly have to side with USD 259.  I have seen the district&#039;s web site, which has agendas and minutes of every meeting posted on the world wide web.  How much more transparency can we ask for.  The school board provides much more transparency than any federal or state legislature I&#039;ve ever seen.  The entire year&#039;s budget is published in &quot;The Wichita Eagle&quot; before its adoption every year.  Not to mention that every single meeting where business is conducted is broadcast on live television and rebrodcast several times during the week.  Clearly the accusation in the article is only an attempt to foster an &quot;atmosphere of alarm&quot; in those readers not familiar with the actual practices of the accused.  A powerful motovational tool indeed.  Were this news as opposed to biased editorial, it would at least include some basic truth though.  As it stands however, it does not claim to be news, so hopefully readers will not mistake it for such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As documented in articles appearing on this website, the Wichita public school district has problems with openness and transparency.&#8221;</p>
<p>Having seen both the articles mentioned in the statement, and having been to several school board meetings, I honestly have to side with USD 259.  I have seen the district&#8217;s web site, which has agendas and minutes of every meeting posted on the world wide web.  How much more transparency can we ask for.  The school board provides much more transparency than any federal or state legislature I&#8217;ve ever seen.  The entire year&#8217;s budget is published in &#8220;The Wichita Eagle&#8221; before its adoption every year.  Not to mention that every single meeting where business is conducted is broadcast on live television and rebrodcast several times during the week.  Clearly the accusation in the article is only an attempt to foster an &#8220;atmosphere of alarm&#8221; in those readers not familiar with the actual practices of the accused.  A powerful motovational tool indeed.  Were this news as opposed to biased editorial, it would at least include some basic truth though.  As it stands however, it does not claim to be news, so hopefully readers will not mistake it for such.</p>
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